Blue. They could have been as common as red. The color blue would have been a popular alternative. We were already seeing orange and green. Orange was so popular. So was red, but I think people are going to be shocked to know that white was not popular. That means a lot of the colors the United States was used to were not as popular as you can imagine at the time. They were in high demand. A lot of our early posters were made with white or beige, rather than the much more popular colors like black and red.
In your original story the “Red Scare”, did you have any other thoughts on the state of American politics in 1924 or 1925?
The fact is, while the U.S. had some real problems at about the same time and from the same quarter — there wasn’t a big war going on, for example. People were having their say in their local newspapers. But there was a lot of talk of a socialist (or “Red” and Marxist) revolution in the United States.
Did the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 impact on things?
Oh yes. I don’t want to say all that much from the perspective that I started with — I can’t recall everything that I did. But the idea of a revolution, it was very much part of that.
So did the Communist Party of the Soviet Union play its part in this? A lot of people still think of them by that name.
No. I think, actually, in that case there was a much more important communist revolution going on than our U.S. counterpart. The Russians were fighting Hitler. But to be fair the communists weren’t necessarily involved in that war. The “Red” groups in the U.S. were. And to some extent they were using the United States for their own purposes, but with a different set of goals.
Is there someone with whom you share in that general view of the Bolsheviks?
No, actually not in the same way. We both saw very much what was going on in the USSR, with their Soviet Union. But at the same time, I also see how they went against socialism.
But what is it that you think was so different?
They weren’t as much the Communist Parties as the Communist intellectuals. They were more about the ideology than anything else and they were more about the party, rather than the nation. They were much more interested in the use, exploitation of people than in
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