How do you not get caught graffiti?

“Every time you write graffiti [in the street], you are on the wrong side of the law. Your friends will be waiting. You are under arrest.

“There are so many people in the street who paint because they don’t think twice before they do something foolish. Sometimes you don’t have to think about that at all.

“The graffiti is part of being a graffiti artist. They are always in the back of peoples minds, you can see it, so it makes them want to do something stupid.”

I am the most unpopular guy out there, says Bizi.

“That is not true. You don’t get popular. If you are the most popular guy, the media loves it. At least I think they do. People want to write about ‘the most popular guy’ – when he’s in his thirties, forty-something, you know.

“I’m not the most popular, but I am the most popular, and that’s why I am so hated because of what I do.

“I’m a good person, a good friend. Everybody likes me – I am not a monster who does bad things all the time. You say things to me, and you will regret about 30 years and why you said it. I will laugh when you say it. If you say something, I will smile.”

I ask how he could be popular. Did he think it was him – or the kids who wrote about him?

“They don’t think about it – the kids know – or they say it’s us graffiti writers, and they know they are not.”

Bizi says he was arrested the day after the Olympics, a couple of weeks after the Olympics when he was stopped for speeding. He says he says “nothing,” but it still feels like he was.

“I would like to apologise to the police because we are not the worst of the bad kids. The worst of the bad kids write about the other kids, and it’s like – they don’t even want to speak about how they feel or what they are doing, they just want to write about how terrible you are.

“When I was arrested, it’s the first time I was in handcuffs for speeding.

“To be honest, I don’t want anyone to know that I went to the police – I don’t want them to think how much it hurts,” says Bizi.