No, it’s not.
The idea that magic is a religion, like Scientology—you’re not a Scientologist.
But they’re both cults.
It’s like, “Yeah, I am a Scientologist, but you’re not a Scientologist.” It’s like, “What? I am a Scientologist, how can you say that I am in any way a part of Scientology?” And I remember one time they were saying that Scientology was in a sort of symbiotic relationship with the Illuminati.
They’re two things that go together?
Yeah. It’s about two worlds. If I can talk a little bit about my involvement, it was that I would do whatever I needed to do to get out of Scientology. [I didn’t] do anything else to get out of Scientology. I was sort of on a ship as an individual, and then I did my thing, and then I was finished. I went on another planet…
You’re saying that you were finished.
Well, yeah. You’re not going to tell me that you like what I’m doing. I’m doing my thing, and then I’m finished. I’m done. I have to say that to you. I’m done. I can’t go to this other place that I don’t know. I’m still here and I’m still doing my thing. It’s been about ten years. [It has to go].
The fact that the church was doing that, as you said, was just one reason that they wanted to tear you apart.
Do you have any idea how far they came?
Who do you think would be the one person they didn’t want to keep talking to?
Oh, I don’t know. I don’t know, that’s a hard one.
You know, you could say, “Well, she had these very obvious things that she was in with the Church of Scientology. She had, what do you say? She had an affair with a married person. She was really being pushed into a corner to take a side that was a little different.” I don’t know what that would mean, but what I know is that she was never going to be a member of the church, period, at some point, because she saw exactly where things were going. And it was going to be disastrous to her. And she had to say, “I’m not
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